In the wake of the pandemic and systemic social injustice, we are facing vast collective grief. Renowned therapists Jack Saul and Esther Perel discuss ways to witness and move through grief using creative expression, toward experiencing fresh joy and purpose in our new world. Speakers: Esther Perel, MFT, family therapist and Jack Saul, PhD, trauma therapist and leader of communal resilience movements. Moderated by Elissa Epel, PhD, Vice Chair for Adult Psychology, UCSF. Recorded on 05/13/2021. (#37475)